Beware Of The Comments You Are Approving Some May Bite
I was having a conversation with one of my readers the other day, via comments and replies, and we were discussing spotting spam comments on our blogs. This discussion got me thinking and I realised that some people are putting to much value on receiving comments and being grateful for any they receive.
Whilst most are valuable comments, that we’d like more of, some are nothing more than spam that are going to cause you grief.
Allow me to explain….
In my early days of blogging when I got a comment I went all “woopy do” and would approved it thinking “yeah at last someone’s interested in what I’m saying” and I’d reply to Mr Fridge Repairs, Mr Printer shop, Ms Nursing School and such like. Only for later to discover that they were causing me and my blog problems with track back spam. I started having issues with my CPU usage and was advised by my hosting service to look for, and remove, any spam comments. So I spent a weekend going through my earlier posts and removing any suspicious comments.
I then tightened my belt, introduced some comment rules and published a post, with a video demonstration, showing people how to add comment rules to their blogs and where to display them…. I now think that was the wrong thing to do.
You see the trouble is that we’re then displaying what we’ll accept the crafty spammers can work around our rules to make themselves appear to be a legitimate commenter. Which more often than not leads to their comments being approved and replied to….. Bingo! They’ve got a back link and will come again and again quite often using the same name and email address but a different URL. Building back links for more and more sites at our expense.
You need to be aware that a lot of these spam comments come from spambots and unethical SEO companies that are trying to build back links for their clients. They’ll try to disguise themselves as legitimate commenter’s and sometimes leave proper comments relating to the posts in the hope of getting approved. This is not an attack on SEO companies, I know some that work by the book and deserve our respect but as with everything there are good and bad in them all.
I still have comment rules but I now keep them in my head so people don’t know what they are, which makes it harder for spammers to work around and easier for me to spot them
My Blog My Rules….
That’s right, it’s my blog and my rules apply (as it should be on your blogs), so when I receive a comment from someone I don’t know I will check a few things before making a decision on whether to approve it or not.
The first thing I check is the URL field and if its empty yet they have a commentluv link I mark it as spam and delete it without a second thought.
If they leave a URL I will visit the site, have a look around and see what it’s about. If it’s a blog I look for who’s left comments there, how many posts there are, whether its an automated blog and when it was last updated. If I’m happy with what I find I’ll approve the comment, if not I’ll mark it as spam and eventually delete it.
If the URL field and commentluv link don’t match I’ll first check for spelling mistakes in the URL, if I find one I’ll correct it in the browser, visit the site and make my mind up from there. If I’m happy I’ll correct the spelling mistake in the URL field and approve it, if not I mark it as spam and delete it.
If the URL field and commentluv link are totally different I’ll trash the comment.
If the URL takes me to Mr Print Shop, Mr Fridge Repair or Ms Nursing School I mark it as spam and delete the comment.
I recently had my blog scanned by SiteLock who informed me of some Malware issues and pointed out where they were….. in some of the comments I had approved from Ms Nursing School, Mr Fridge Repair and Mr Print Shop in the woopy do moments of my earlier comments.
There are times when the comments are really good and add value to the post but still link to unsavoury sites. For me it’s a simple decision; if they link to unsavoury sites I mark them as spam and delete them.
I know that some people approve this type of comment but change the URL to their own and remove the commentluv link. Each to their own, however I think that by approving the comments you’re approving their email addresses so the next time they leave a comment it may not be held for moderation.
Note: If you have a view on this please share it, as I could be wrong
We Were All Newbies Once….
We were all newbies once and unsure of how to leave a decent comment so bear in mind the difference between a spam comment and a poor one.
Newbies can be unsure of what commenting is all about and some quite often leave poor ones like “nice blog I’ll be back” or “loved the post keep up the good work” and things like that. I don’t approve any comment that could relate to any post on any blog but as I said above I check the URL’s of the comments being left and if I find it’s a newbie I will try to point them in the right direction by leaving them a real comment of encouragement. If they have a contact form I will, on occasion, get in touch and explain why their comment hasn’t been approved.
Whilst on the newbies blog I’ll look at the comments being left and if/when I see spam comments I’ll point them out them out to the blog owner.
No doubt some of you reading this have had such emails from me. Its not me giving it “the big I am”, I’m simply trying to save you the aggravation that I have had to go through to remove spam and malware from my blog.
Hit and Run Merchants….
These are the ones that think it’s ok to leave poor comments that could relate to any post on any blog. Nine times out of Ten they don’t even read the post and leave the same crap comments everywhere they go “I found your post really interesting and think it will really help me. Thanks for writing on this subject” which again could relate to any post on any blog. These get marked as spam and deleted.
Real Bloggers and Real Comments….
Real bloggers know how to leave real comments and don’t need to be told any rules, they know what isn’t acceptable. You’ll see these people commenting on loads of blogs that you visit and come to recognise them through their Gravatars. You’ll notice that their comments add value to the post, ask questions or express their experience with the subject of the post.
These are the people to value and appreciate, reply to their comments and return the visit to their blogs, where you should also leave them a decent comment. If there’s something you didn’t quite understand in the post ask them about it in your comment, they’ll reply and try to explain it for you.
If you enjoy their content share it on the Social Media Networks and tell your friends and followers what you enjoyed about the post, how it helped you or how it could help them.
Plugins That Help….
To help protect you from spam there are certain plugins that you should have on your blog.
Akismet is totally free and filters your comments for track back spam making life easier for you. There are occasions however when it places good people in the spam folder so be sure to check the comments there on a regular basis.
GASP Growmap Anti Spambot Plugin is again a free plugin that will place a check-box beneath your comment submission area that must be checked before a comment can be submitted. Spambots can’t check the box as they’re automated so this will cut down on your spam and make a huge difference.
CommentLuv Premium is not free but it does contain GASP as well as other anti spam features like being able to set a minimum time that someone has to be on your post before being able to leave a comment. This also stops the spambots as well as some hit and run merchants. Personally I wouldn’t be without it.
Share Your Views….
I know that most bloggers have their own set of rules for the comments they allow. So tell me, do you agree with the ones I have detailed?
How do you deal with the comments that appear to add value but link to unsavoury sites? Do you change the URL or delete the comment altogether?
Do you display your rules on your blogs?
Have you had similar issues with track back spam and malware?
If you didn’t have any comment rules has this post changed your mind?
Sharing Is Caring….
If you’ve enjoyed this post and think it will help your friends and followers please use the Social Sharing tools available to tell them about it. You never know what aggravations you could be saving them from and I really would appreciate it, thanks
Until next time, stay safe
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Twitter: leoraw
Great topic, Barry. I can easily tell if someone is a spammer (they tend to leave ridiculous messages on old posts), but I can see how a newbie can be SO confused.
One comment about your blog: your title tag is now reading “–”. Look in your browser on the wee top or in the source code at the tag. I’m guessing it didn’t used to be that way. Did you change your theme? If you use Yoast’s SEO plugin, it can help solve the title tag problem for each posts. I highly recommend it.
Speaking of plugins, thanks for those specific recommendations on spam plugins.
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Hi Leora,
That’s a very good point that I should have included in the post. Spammers tent to target older posts as they’re already indexed
Thanks for pointing out the title tag error. I’ve just swapped my SEO plugin over to Yoast and am in the process of setting it up. I thought I had done it but obviously made a mistake somewhere
Thanks Leora, have a great weekend.
Barry
Twitter: ianjenkinson
Hi Barry,
Spam commenting is getting worse and is becoming a pain in the a***.
Yes they are fairly easy to spot as you say, Mr Kitchen is commenting on my post on email marketing. “Great post on your site that I have just stumbled across, keep it going.” This is no help to any one. It is not constructive or helpful to you or other readers. Why they don’t just put a bit of time in and do it correctly as they must know most of their comments are going to be deleted. My little rant finished.
Ian
P.s Starting on a few videos and your posts on making videos have come in very handy.
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Hi Ian,
I agree that they are a pain in the R Send but it goes with the territory Ian, the more popular you become the more they’ll try and get comments approved on your blog.
I agree that the comments left don’t add any value. Like I said in the post Ian, they’re just after a back link. I think many of them are just hit and run merchants that seem to paste the same comments everywhere they go.
Mark them as spam and leave them in the spam folder for a little while and Akismet should pick them up next time they leave a comment.
Glad to hear that you’re starting to create videos and that my ones are helping. If you need any help or advice Ian visit the Facebook Fan Page (displayed in my sidebar) and I’ll see what I can do to help.
Thanks Ian, best of luck mate.
Barry
Twitter: harleenas
Wonderful post Barry!
I ditto all that you said, and it couldn’t have all been better explained and worded I think. You truly covered everything there is about the right kind of comments or the spam ones.
When I was a newbie, just like every newbie, I always approved whatever comment that came my way – I guess the more the better as they say. But I never realized nor knew much that I was approving the spam comments that came from various people giving some company links.
and yes you are so right – that their comments relate to the post and are at times better worded than our usual blogger friend’s! So much so that even CommentLuv approves most of them. I guess in such cases it does get difficult to make out which is the right one or not.
Speaking of myself, I always check the URL and the link. Sometimes when there is no link (which could be by mistake or a problem in the plugin or other reasons), I visit the URL and cross-check whether the commenters name is present or he/she is the blog owner. Often times they are, but if they are not, then it’s spammed and deleted- just as you mentioned.
I usually don’t get the ‘few words’ comments at my blog, but if I do, again the source and person is scanned before approving things.
I was just about thinking of putting up my commenting policy, but your suggestions make me think twice. I do have a few lines mentioned at the end of the posts about the commenting policy, though just as you said – it’s my blog- so my rules work!!
Thanks for sharing a wonderful post that is sure to help many.
Have a nice weekend
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Hi Harleena,
Sorry you had to wait for moderation. As you’ve previously been approved you should automatically be approved when you comment.
Thanks for the compliments on the way I explained things, I just hope that it saves people making the same mistakes we did when we first started blogging.
As newbies we all make mistakes, which is part of the learning curve, but the time I’ve spent removing spam comments from my blog tots up to over a weeks work and I doubt that I have got them all…..YET
You make a very good point about visiting the websites and looking for the commenters name there. I should have included that in the post so I’m really pleased that you’ve mentioned that Harleena.
I know lots of people display their commenting rules but as I said it gives the spammers an idea of what will get approved, allowing them to work within your rules. I find by not displaying them I can hit delete far quicker
I saw Adrienne mentioned that her blog was like her home recently in one of her posts and couldn’t agree more. With that in mind would we invite unsavoury people to come into our homes…. Of course not and the same should apply to our blogs.
Thanks Harleena, I hope you have a great relaxing weekend too
Take care,
Barry
Hey Barry,
Good topic to bring up because a lot of people need this info. At first I remember those days when I told my self yippee a comment even though I was scratching my head going something’s not right here.
The whole spam thing is very simple, once you get into blogging you can smell spam comments a mile away. Common sense will tell you easily and immediately.
If you are just starting out blogging and the comment and urls are making you scratch your head, 99% chance that it’s spam. Anything that makes you scratch you head 99% it’s spam.
As for the 1% even though I think it’s a spam comment it may be a newbie or someone with an accent (but its rare) I will always take a few just to look it over and see as you state Barry where it’s coming from.
A good comment is a comment that will not make you scratch your head. If you have a good blog you should expect good comments that make sense to YOUR POST in stead of not making sense or only giving you praise.
Thanks for the insight Barry,
Terry Conti
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Hi Terry,
I know what you mean about scratching your head and wondering about the comments left by spammers, with experience they’re easy to spot but being new to blogging we were grateful for them and even replied with all sincerity…. Which of course is what brings them back.
The thing is I still see so many people allowing spam on their sites so I really hope that they take note and become more strict.
You make a good point about people who’s first language isn’t English. I’ve got a few readers that this applies to but they always make their point and it is quite easy to understand their meaning. Again we just need to visit their sites to get an understanding or who they are and what they’re about.
As I said Terry, any comment that could be related to any ol’ post doesn’t get approved. People don’t need to leave lengthy comments if they don’t want to but the comment must relate to the post it has been submitted for, otherwise…. Bye Bye Bad comment
Thanks Terry, I hope you’re well mate
Barry
Twitter: adriennesmith40
Wow Barry, great post is right! You go to a lot of trouble to check people out.
What I do is I’ll visit their site and see what it’s about. If they link to a product or service I don’t approve their comment. If they don’t leave me a name but use their keywords instead, I don’t approve their comment. If they leave the same comment they leave everyplace else, again, not approved. If they leave a genuine comment but no gravatar, I’ll let them know they need to get that set up in my reply to their comment. If they leave me a “all about them” comment, not approved.
I will take some of the links or URL out of a comment if I know it’s someone who really enjoys reading my posts and is here to learn but doesn’t have a blog I can visit. I don’t mind because I catch those comments each time with an email notification to me. I want people to learn from me so I don’t want to necessarily slap everyone because they don’t have everything in place I would prefer.
You’d done a great job though of letting us know why these types of comments can hurt our blogs more than help. Hope everyone pays attention to what you’ve shared.
Thanks for sharing this with us in this post. Now, enjoy your weekend young man.
~Adrienne
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Hi Adrienne,
After spending over a week (in total) removing spam and malware from my blog I sure do go to great lengths checking people out, once bitten twice shy as they say Adrienne
Like you, I don’t allow links to products, promotions or services. Nor do I allow all Keywords in there name field, it’s nice to know who we’re talking to when we reply. I’m certainly with you on people leaving the same comment everywhere they go, they have their own little spot in the trash can
Thanks for sharing your views on removing some unsavoury URLs and allowing the comment so the person can learn from you. It’s very understanding of you and as you say they may not have everything in place that we would like but still have a desire to learn. Lesson learnt myself there Adrienne, thank you.
I hope people do learn from the post as it’s not funny having to spend loads of time going back through our older posts to remove the comments we once approved. As i said Adrienne if I totted up the time I’ve spent removing spam and malware it totals over a week and we all know what we could’ve done with that time.
Thanks Adrienne, I hope you’re having a great weekend with your mom.
Take care,
Barry
Twitter: MayuraDeSilva
Amazing… I’m really glad you come up with this topic Barry
You were right. Still I consider myself as a newbie and first days I had no idea about comments. If I felt gratitude for a post, I just leave “Nice article” or some sort of few words for them. I thought that’s better than just sharing a post.
However as I more exposed to blogging and commenting, I knew that I was wrong earlier. What would I do? Delete all comments I’ve made previously? But that’s how it goes. Learning from mistakes. Actually, I admit, I was ignorant at first days. That makes sense. Now I’m even better with commenting and always learn from other comments too. I really love reading comments
When it comes to my blog, initially I was so glad to see incoming traffic. And exhilarated with comments made on my blog. Sincerely I appreciate them and always respond to them ASAP. I thought I should appreciate them for taking their time and leaving me a comment. But as time move on, I start to see more comments with links. I really hate promotions and links. So I deleted them and came up with some comment rules on my blog as you’ve noticed already.
Then I started to watch out my traffic in real-time. I look out for people land on my blog and if a comment made just after few seconds their landing, you know what it is. They don’t even read my posts. I was really disappointed.
And then we’ve got a discussion about posting comments on Twitter. I was totally disappointed. Ha ha not about you mate
Most of comments on my blog were spammy comments. I’ve got it after talking to you. Right after I start reviewing them again and delete most of them. Got to check leftovers. I’m really glad we met.
Nice tools you shared for WordPress
I was researching about comment plugins these days and gonna move to Disqus at last. I’ve found some of mentioned tools while I was surfing too. Disqus has Akismet spam filter and I’m glad of my selection. “My blog, My rules” – That’s what I’m gonna be now. I’m gonna review and approve each comment in next days with Disqus. And see how much lucky I am
You come up with this post and now I can aware more about comments made on my blog. It’s like you were reading my mind
And I’d like to shoot another question here Barry. Another disappointing topic for me. It’s also about feedback. I don’t understand why people only check out posts shared on social networks, but never like, +1 or tweet them even they find them interesting. May be it’s only me thinks so. But where’s the respect for online content? I think you can address them soon too
See, I’m improved
I wanted to end up my comment in few lines. But I couldn’t help it.
Have a wonderful weekend Barry
Cheers…
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Hi Mayura,
After we discussed the topic I realised that I had lots to share about the subject, especially having spent so much extra time removing the spam and malware from my blog. With loads of work waiting to be completed but sat on the side while I went about removing spam I found it quite soul destroying.
We were all newbies once my friend and we learn from experience. I admire your honesty when you say that you once left poor comments, although I have to say that all of the comments I’ve seen from you add value to the posts they’re on… They certainly have on my blog Mayura
Unfortunately you’re not able to delete any comments left on other blogs but you’ve learnt your lesson so when you go back to those blogs just be yourself my friend and people will see that you’ve learnt. As I said Mayura we were all newbies once my friend.
I know exactly what you mean about being grateful for people commenting on your blog and replying ASAP to show your appreciation, I done exactly the same myself, as many of us did when we first started.
When it comes to links being left: I allow the links in the URL field and commentluv and the only links I allow within a comment are those to posts or pages that are to help people or would be of benefit to my readers in some way.
I know what you mean about those that land on your blog, leave comments within seconds and leave again without having spent enough time there to read the content. These people I call hit and run merchants but I have CommentLuv Premium and that allows me to set a minimum time that a person has to be on my blog before they’re allowed to comment. If they try commenting straight away they get a message telling them they haven’t been here long enough….. Oh how I love CommentLuv Premium
Disqus is a good service to use but people have to set up accounts there so as to be able to leave comments on Disqus blogs. I do know that some people can’t be bothered to set up extra accounts and this can also help reduce the spam we get. I do have an account on Disqus so no worries there my friend
If you’re currently on WordPress you don’t have to move to Disqus as you can add Akismet, GASP and CommentLuv via your WP admin panel with ease. Just go to your admin panel then plugin section, click add new and enter the names of the plugins mentioned. Then install, activate and check the settings. If you get stuck at all just let me know where and I’ll help you through it Mayura
I’m really pleased that the post has helped you
When it comes to people sharing our posts over the Social Media Networks i think there are a few factors to take into account. People may enjoy your post, leave a decent comment and leave without sharing because the sharing buttons are out of view when commenting. I have at time been guilty of this myself, get the comment finished and simply forget to share it. I don’t think its a reflection of their views on the post I just think they forget because they can no longer see the sharing tools….. Another great feature of CommentLuv Premium is that it adds the sharing buttons to prompt the commenter to sharethe post and in doing so allows them to select from a wider choice of their post to leave a link to.
You certainly have got the hang of commenting Mayura, this one was like a post in itself
Thank you my friend, you have a great weekend too.
Take care, Barry
Twitter: MayuraDeSilva
Absolutely Barry
I see, you have mentioned about sharing. That’s right
They may have forget to share or problem with share plugins. I agree. Actually I meant the content share on social networks. It doesn’t matter it was written by me or not. Let me be clear
Let’s say I’ve shared image on Facebook and my friends really enjoy it. But they might not “Like” it eventhough they enjoyed it. If I’ve seen a something interesting, I’d try comment or like it on Facebook. That’s why “Like” made for, right? No matter on Facebook, when it comes to Twitter and Google+ same happens. I don’t say you need to re-tweet or like everything you see. But if we get something out of it, a little respect would be better. right? As like you thank people who has shared your posts.
Take care
Cheers…
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Thanks for putting me straight on the Disqus account requirement, having an account set up I tend not to look further than I need to with it
I understand what you mean about the sharing now Mayura and have to admit that I have been guilty of that myself. I do hit the like button/link on Facebook but haven’t been doing it on G+. On my part it was an oversight but maybe people don’t do it because it would fill their stream with the same content that they’ve already shared with their circles?
I do get your point though and agree that if we like something we should share it, after all it’s just a click
Thanks Mayura, enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Barry
Twitter: MayuraDeSilva
Oh Barry, if they have shared what they have been enjoyed, we can keep them aside. It doesn’t matter they’ve +1d or Liked it again. Right?
Absolutely, it’s a matter of few seconds. But it made author or creator think how grateful they are
And I’m gonna thank you again for this post and sharing your knowledge Barry
No it’s not overrating. ‘Cause today I’ve achieved my goal. Just after talking with you about spammy comments, my goal was to remove all spammy comments from my blog before Monday. I don’t remember how much removed last few days, but today itself I’ve removed 155 spammy comments from my blog
Now I’m clean and clear. No I’m not worrying about SEO mostly. I was worried about approving spammy comments without knowing about them. Now I know how to approve real comments and prevent spammers
Have a great week ahead mate
Cheers…
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Yes it only take a few seconds to share a post and I know that we all appreciate our content shared
Fair play and congratulations Mayura, 155 spam comments removed is quite an achievement. I’m really pleased that this post has helped you pinpoint the culprits so as to be able to remove them, but more importantly shown you what to look out for so as to stop allowing them in future.
Thats great news Mayura, onwards and upwards now my friend
Thanks Mayura, you have a great week as well
Take care, Barry
Twitter: lisapatb
Barry, this is great timing. I saw this via Twitter but finally had a few minutes today to dig into it. I was wondering about this myself as some comments were going into spam via Askimet and they looked real and I wasn’t sure what to do. I haven’t noticed keywords in name field – will be on the lookout for those in the future. I too have to learn to write better comments because I tend to be short with words at times. Thanks Barry for sharing this one on comments.
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Hi Lisa,
That goes to prove the power of Twitter, as I detailed in my last post
I’m really pleased you found it helpful Lisa. You’ll have to check the comments that Akismet regards as spam as sometimes regular readers and true commenters can end up there. I check my folder most days so it’s managable and easy to spot “real people”.
I quite often notice your comments and there’s nothing wrong with any that I’ve seen Lisa
Thanks Lisa, enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Barry
Twitter: annieandrehacks
Barry,
I have been known to allow a comment or two (that added value) slip by even though they linked to something that looked fishy. Not all, just some. I don’t approve comments that use only keywords.
lately, I’ve been getting pingbacks but when i click on the link there is nothing there. I don’t understand. Do you..
I don’t post my rules either. I also use all of the spam filters that you mention too.. I just wish spammy commenters would just STOP!!.. It is so annoying..
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Hi Annie,
You should check those links that you’ve allowed Annie as they could cause issues down the road with track back spam or malware. I would remove the URLs if they are unsavoury and either point it back to your blog or leave it blank, better safe than sorry.
I also get pingbacks that seem to lead nowhere. I’ve no idea how these come about but I now I don’t even follow them. If I know the URL that sends them I allow them other than that they’re deleted.
CommentLuv Premium has had another update, which is currently being tested, that is really going to help reduce spam and remove broken links in the Twitter Link fields. I saw it in action yesterday and have to say that Andy has done a great job with this update that I know is going to help us all reduce some the rubbish we receive. That should be ready in a few day Annie
Thanks Annie, have a great week.
Barry
Twitter: SylvianeNuccio
Very valuable post Berry,
Like you and many others I’ve accepted a lot of trash comments in the past, but with over 60 real comments on my last writing blog post those days are over
There is a guy that I am suspecting being some type of a spammer and I deleted all his comments and told him all the things I did or didn’t want and he is posting comments again on my blog with now a new link. I’ve seen him on many other blogs that I visit as well so, it seems that they are accepting his comments. As for me I am watching him closely.
Thanks for all those great tips, Barry.
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Hi Sylviane,
WOW over 60 real comments on your post, that’s really good. So with your replies you’ll have over 120 which is fantastic, the search engines are going to love you
Now that you’re receiving so many comments you’ll have to be aware that spammers will try even harder to get approved and will try to make themselves ligitimate. Good news is coming though Sylviane… Keep a look out for the next CommentLuv Premium update…. You’ll love it
If there’s someone commenting on your blog that you’re not happy with remove the comments he’s left. I had one myself that appeared to leave the same comments everywhere so I removed all of his comments from my blog even though I see his comments, which all pretty much say the same thing, approved on other sites. My blog my rules… Your blog your rules
The new link he has submitted: Is it to a new blog? If so how many people are commenting there? How many posts has he published, how frequently? Does he reply to his comments properly? These are the questions I would be asking myself before I allowed him back on my blog.
Once bitten twice shy
Thanks Sylviane, have a great week
Barry
Twitter: SylvianeNuccio
No, no not 120 comments
The guy that I am talking about has really selling blogs, nothing very interesting. Some of them seem to be in Hebrew. Can’t read that
But I kinda can tell.
Thanks for your great reply, Barry!
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I agree that 66 is a great number of comments, especially as they’re all adding value. I will get over there Sylviane but I’m having some health issues at the moment
With regard to the fella leaving comments: I never allow a link to a site where there’s content I can’t read, just an extra safety precaution
Thanks Sylviane, I’ll try and get over soon.
Barry
Twitter: learn_to_blog
Hi Barry, great post, as always. (Now that on its own would be a spam comment!)
I don’t really have rules as such, and I don’t visit the sites to see where people come from, but I do delete the links if they are made within the comment itself, simply because unless they are adding to the value of the content I think it’s wrong to put it on someone else’s site. I could tell you about some other thing here that adds to your content then put an affiliate link in this text, but I do think that’s bad form. I might refer you to someone else’s blog, but that’s different. I rarely even do so much as to try and pull people onto my own blog by saying ‘I wrote about this, read my post’.
Spam is a problem, and you are right, they are getting more crafty in their posting. I still think most are pretty easy to pick out, they don’t seem to be that clever a lot of the time!
Enjoy the journey.
Mandy
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Hi Mandy, I hope you’re well.
Sorry for the delay in replying to your comment but i’m having a few health issues at the moment
I totally agree with you about removing links from within a comment. In my opinion people have 2 links available to them so adding more to the comment itself is a no no and will be deleted…. Unless it’s a link that is relevant to the post and adds additional information that can help my readers.
Affiliate links in any form with a comment will see the whole comment deleted.
I also refer to other peoples blog posts at times (when commenting on other blogs) but If i ever leave a link I miss of the http etc so the link isn’t active and needs to be copied and pasted to their browser. If the person who’s link I’m leaving is well know then I’ll just say something like “Mandy Allen just wrote a post that’ll help with this…..”.
CommentLuv Prem is about to have another update and this one is FANTASTIC for deleting spam as soon as it’s submitted, so it doesn’t even get to your spam folder. I’ve never been more excited about an update Mandy…. I’ll sort KB out as soon as it happens
Take care Mandy, speak soon.
Barry
Twitter: ITSergioFelix
Hey Barry,
Long time no see mate!
“Great article, thanks for sharing this post with us” LOL man, I don’t really know who the heck writes those kind of comments (I get them a lot) but seriously, is it really that hard to read an article?
To answer a few of your questions, I don’t have any commenting rules displayed but I DO have rules and they are very similar to yours.
My level of tolerance has been decreasing with time though and I’ll explain briefly why:
I got rid of all the one-liners and “great post” kind of comments.
Then I actually started getting good comments linking to bad places, I would just remove the link. After some time, I decided that I do not “have” to approve a comment if they are linking to a place I don’t like.
So I spammed all of those comments and I don’t approve them anymore, EVEN if the comment is good.
And the final one, is when they actually mention my name (proves that they at least know who they are talking to), have a good comment but still link to a bad place.
I would normally approve those but seriously, I’m getting so fed up on spam comments that I just don’t approve those anymore, not just remove the link, NO, spam the comment and trash it.
For dealing with spam I currently use Akismet and CommentLuv+ and it’s by far the best combination I have come up with.
I’m still thinking of moving to something like Disqus or Livefyre which I know in advance I will have less comments or maybe even zero comments but at least I won’t have to deal with spam comments.
My logic behind this, is that I’m dead serious about my work online and I want the same from my visitors, nothing more, nothing else.
In my eyes, you do a LOT for your visitors and about having the commenting rules published, I really don’t think that’s a bad idea at all.
For the outsourced people that are hired to write comments for links, they are not that dumb, if they see commenting rules in place, they already know that’s a blog that won’t approve their comment and just hop on to the next site.
Hope that sheds some light, take care Barry!
Sergio
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Hi Sergio,
Yes its been a while mate, sorry about that but I’m having some health issues at present. There’s always something isn’t there mate
I know what you mean about reading an article before commenting. Unfortunately mate there are hit and run merchants out there that think its acceptable to scroll to the comment section and leave crap comments thinking they’ll be approved. The scary thing is Sergio that I see their comments approved on other blogs and want to scream
I can understand your level of tolerance decreasing, they have that affect on us with the rubbish they try and get away with.
Your rules are very similar to mine Sergio, good for you my friend, “Your Blog Your Rules”.
Those good comments linking to bad places are the ones from unethical SEO companies trying to work around any rules so as to be approved and generate a backlink for their clients. You could swap the URL for your own in some cases Sergio
just be on the look out for any future comments from them as you’ll have to repeat the URL swap every time mate.
I think that displaying the rules allows them to try and work around them, which is why I now keep mine in my head so as soon as it lands in my inbox I know what I’ll be doing with the comments.
Its good that you use both Akismet and CommentLuv Prem, between them they save us a whole heap of time.
I can understand your thinking of switching to Disqus but would advise that you wait for the next ComLuv Prem update as Andy has focused on spam and dead twitter links in this update. I’ve seen it in action Sergio and I’m really excited about it, its going to save us even more time so keep an eye out for it mate
Thanks for sharing your views Sergio, I really appreciate it mate.
Take care,
Barry
Barry, thanks for sharing this. I know what you mean about all those spam comments and I usually delete any that are either obviously unrelated, or have poor spelling and grammar (so you know they came from a spammer) or they’re just one sentence like “great post” which anyone could say without reading anything!
I do often visit sites if people leave them as part of the comment and if the site is pure junk, I tend to delete the comments, too, just because I don’t want my readers ending up inadvertently going to any spammy sites.
But I didn’t realize that they could actually harm your site, which is good to know.
I use Disqus which is pretty good at filtering out spam (and unfortunately some good comments, too, but you can always go manually approve those). If you ever catch any on my site, please feel free to point ‘em out!
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Hi Carol Lynn,
It’s good to know that you’re also deleting those spammy or one liner comments, they really are just a waste of everyone’s time aren’t they…
A friend of mine had his site hacked via a comment he had approved. He told me that as soon as he approved the comment his site was out of his hands and beleive me he was spitting feathers over it as he then had to sort the hacking out and rebuild the site.
Disqus is pretty good for filtering spam and as you said you can go back and approve any comments it catches by accident.
If I do see any on your blog Carol Lynn I will of course point them out
I’ll head over soon as I have to update my about me page and I see from your comluv link that you’re talking of that very topic
Thanks Carol Lynn, take care.
Barry
Hey Barry, you hit on one of my favorite subjects. Commenting! I consider myself pretty lucky in my early days because I started out joining a Tribe which taught us the ethical ways of commenting and syndicating.
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I don’t like “great post” and won’t publish it, unless I know it is a newbie in my fold. Like you, I will get back to that person and let them know why I couldn’t post their comment. They are usually grateful for it.
I have WordPress and it’s pretty good on those spammers but once in a while someone slips in. I click the comment luv and find it is “mister refrigerator man” and he goes to the spam box.
As you might know I’m a stickler about commenting and preach it to people all the time.
As you point out here about receiving comments that go to spam sites, one must be aware.
Thanks for the heads up on Sitelock! I’m going over there right now just to see if I missed something along the way.
You Rock my friend,
Donna
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Hi Donna,
I was just reading your post over at Adrienne’s place….. “Great post”
Sorry I couldn’t resist
joking aside I’ll leave it at that as I did leave a real comment on the post
That’s a good idea to join a Tribe that show you the ropes before you start, or soon afterwards. Must have saved loads of periods of trial and error as well having to make mistakes to learn from them.
I can’t stand those one line comments that could relate to anything, anywhere.
I know what you mean about spammers slipping by our anti spam measures. I also get my comments sent via email and it displays the URL in them so if it’s missing I don’t even check the commentluv link because they’ve removed the URL to trick the spam filters we put in place.
If you’re going to use SiteLock Donna try going through your host as you may get a good discount. Hostgator give $250 discount bringing it down to just $49.95.
Thanks Donna, best of luck…
Barry
Thanks Barry! I will try SiteLock. This was an awesome post ….Donna
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You’re more than welcome Donna.
Sorry for the delay in replying but I’m currently off sick and just snuck some time out to catch up with comments
Barry
Twitter: jmd164
Hi Barry,
This is a really good topic Barry and I’m sure will help people with the -should I or should I not approve decisions. I myself had doubts about some comments I had approved, and am one of those you have dropped a note to – which was very much appreciated.:-) The thing being, because I did have doubts, I should not have approved them in the first place – One learns.
Knowing the difference between a newbie and spammer is something to look into and in explaining there how you go about doing your checking-up, is really good and helps a lot.
Like my parents use to say to us, ‘you’re living under my roof, you bide my my rules’ So – you’re commenting on my blog, bide by my rules!
Trying my parents tactics on my kids – just doesn’t seem to work the same, they keep coming back at me with ‘children’s rights!’ When I was a kid, we had the right to remain silent unless spoken to … oh, where have those days gone.
Thanks Barry
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Julie
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Hi Julie, sorry for the deay in replying to your comment but i’m currently having some health issues and am on bed rest. I’ve just snuck out of bed to try and get some comments and emails replied to…. Don’t tell the wife of I’ll have some additional health issues to deal with
Onto your comment:
I’m really pleased that you’ve appreciated it when I’ve got in touch about some comments you’ve allowed. I do worry sometimes that i may be offending people when I do this but i look on you all as mates and wouldn’t want to see a mate suffer because of some R Soul leaving spam on your blogs. Thanks for letting me know Julie
You make a really good point when you say if you have doubts about the comment don’t approve it. That way it sure saves us a lot of headaches until we’re sure about what to do with the comment.
It’s funny you say about “while you live under my roof” I remember those days so well. But yes it’s exactly the same with our blogs, would you invite an unsavoury person to come and sit on your sofa? Of course not…. so why should we allow them to stick their links on our blogs???
Ha ha your kids sound much like mine Julie. We used to get threatened with the NSPCC, the cheeky beggers
Thanks Julie, take care.
Barry
Twitter: LogAllot
When I started out I had no clue about this stuff, but as time went by I got real schooled quick behind these pests that just don’t want to go away. Now, I check just about everything and I have seen a culprit a time or too come back and use a different email, and url. I also go back and delete any replies to these people as well. Not sure how much that helps, but any thing is better than doing nothing.
I hate this crap and my red flags are always up. I watch people like hawks and I don’t mean too, but if it’s for the wrong reason, then there you go. Great post Barry and thank you for bringing this to light.
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Hi Sonia, sorry for the deay in replying to your comment but i’m currently having some health issues and am on bed rest, 2 weeks so far and boring doesn’t begin to cover it…
Onto your comment:
I know what you mean about these pests not going away, they can take up way to much of our time can’t they… Especially those cheeky so and so’s that try leaving different URL’s (from SEO companies).
You make a good point about also removing our replies to any spam comments that we have previously approved. Its time consuming but it is a job we have to do
I hope that you’ve now updated your commentLuv prem Sonia, as it goes a long way to help us block spam and stop it even being submitted
Thanks Sonia, take care.
Barry
Twitter: LogAllot
I have to thank you again for this post. I found someone commenting on my blog for a while who comments on other blogs for his clients using different website addresses to promote their articles and site.
Once I took a closer look at what they were doing, I went back and deleted all comments, responses and blocked their IP address from every visiting my site again. Then I found this person on my fellow blogger sites and informed them too. The bad part is this person is active on many sites and people don’t realize it. I now look at everything allot more closely.
Thanks Barry!
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It sounds like you found an SEO company building links for their clients Sonia.
You’re right to remove the comments and replies as I feel that just removing the links from the comments still allows them to come back and use up more of your time sifting through their rubbish.
Blocking their IP saves you all the hassle
I’m really pleased the post helped you Sonia.
Hope to catch up soon, as soon as my wife is happy for me to get up again.
Take care,
Barry
I agree, Barry. I have received many comments that looked like they were useful, but they weren’t. There are also comments which add value, but link to unwanted sites. I don’t tend to be much cautious about these things – until they don’t add anything to the post. If the commentator has something in the comment, worth saying then I usually let it go by. But, I can see how it can hurt my site. I guess, I need to be more careful with the comment approval.
Thanks for the tips, Barry!
Hi Jeevan, sorry for the deay in replying to your comment but i’m currently on bed rest due to some health issues…
Onto your comment:
By the sounds of it my friend you really do need to be more cautious. Make sure that you check the comments, sites and links you’re allowing on your blog as the last thing you want are problems down the road that’ll take an age to resolve.
It doesn’t have to take to long to visit the site and see if you’re happy linking to it
Thanks Jeevan, best of luck mate.
Barry
No problem, Barry
I hope you get well soon.
I guess so. I will be taking in your advice and checking the sites. Thanks once again!
Thanks Jeevan, I’m getting there slowly my friend. Its now 6 weeks and still counting
I hope the sites worked for you
Barry
Hey Barry, when I came online 3 years ago I was getting the exact same comments and rather than spend time digging through for the legitimate ones, I instead disabled comments for several months. It wasn’t until almost a year later that I realized how much I was hurting my blog by not allowing readers to comment, and not building a community.
Once you install the plugins and figure out a routine for dealing with them things smooth out immensely, so I’d not recommend anyone take my route and disable them. GASP is a great plugin and helped my blog cut my spam comments down into manageable amounts!
Take care my friend!
Hi Warren, sorry for not replying sooner mate but I’m currently on bed rest and rotating from side to side every 3 hours… Boring doesn’t start to cover it mate, but needs must I’m afraid
WOW that was some mistake to make Warren and for some length of time mate.
GASP is a great plugin for reducing spam. Do you have commentluv premium? That is my favourite plugin of them all as it has so many anti spam features and Andy is constantly working to improve it. If you don’t have it Warren I highly recommend it mate, especially as you’re now creating more sites
I hope mother and baby are both well and letting you get some sleep at night
Thanks warren, take care mate.
Barry
I’m still using the free version, but feeling guilty enough to switch after seeing so many of you using it now.
They are, and life is getting back to normal once again! Thank you for asking.
Get well my friend, wishing you well from Canada
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Hi Warren, sorry for the delay again but I’m still off sick. 6 weeks now and still counting
I think the benefits of Commentluv premium far outweigh the cost of it. Its such a time saver i wouldn’t be without it.
Glad to hear the family are all ok mate, hope you are as well Warren
Thanks Warren, take care mate
Barry,
You mentioned the blog load speed, couldn’t figure out the checker program you talked about. In the interumn I came accross this other broken link checker tool. Its name is Zenu. It has a speed checket. It rated HealthyBodySolution load speed at 1 to 2 seconds. But they did find a couple of broken links and for the life of me I can’t figure out how to find them.
On to bigger and better things. Recently I received an email from someone that explained how check out a new idea to see how well it may sell. It was probably com luv, or Sally or you.
Hay buddy, I was forced by none other than me to make a comment on your Kick Ass site.
Cheers
Glen
Hi Glen, sorry for the delay in my replying to your comment but I’m currently on bed rest.
I think you meant for this comment to go my previous post for slow loading blogs and broken links
I’ve never tried Zenu can’t point you in the direction of solving the broken links you found. If you pop over to my previous post and follow the link to Broken Link Checker and test your site there then use their report to point out the broken link locations, it’s really easy to use.
Thanks for coming over and commenting Glen I do appreciate it but i have removed the little advert and link to your health body solution site that you left in your comment as I don’t allow links to left in this way.
Thanks for commenting though, Barry
Barry,
This post was about thase dang spammers. I have a site glensrenewableenergy.com. they did such a number on it that I basically shut it down. It just wasn’t worth the effort to keep rebuilding the site. I have a couple of spam blockers in place, had my hosting company put on a hard password, they still got through.
I will come up with the time one of these days and re open this blog. I’ll see what happens.
Cheers
Glen
Hi Glen,
Are you confusing spammers and hackers mate?
For anti spam filters i recommend Akismet and Commenluv Premium. If you want free filters then Akismet and GASP and then a strict rule about who and what you’ll allow on your blog, remember your blog your rules Glen.
For anti Hacker measure i would recommend Limit Log In Attempts, WP FireWall, WP Security Scan and WordPress File Monitor. I would also change your password ever week or so and make it as strong as you can by using a mix of all the characters.
I would also keep an up to date backup of your blogs so that if ever it does happen you can re-install quite easily.
Again I have removed your advert and link for your new site from your comment Glen, I do appreciate your comments but I don’t allow links like that within them.
Take care,
Barry
Twitter: growwithstacy
Hi Barry,
When I first started my blog I didn’t know what to look for as far as spam comments go. I’ve been going through my old comments and I’m surprised at the comments and links that I allowed. We all live and learn!
Over the last two years I’ve become more and more strict as to what I’ll allow. I do look for many of the signs that you mentioned such as the mismatch of the url and the address of the commentluv. I look for gravatars and the comment MUST refer to the post content. If it’s generic or obviously a copy and paste job it’s an automatic spam.
I was using both Akismet and GASP but finally gave in and got commentluv premium. I’m very happy with it for the anti-spam features. I love that I can control how long a post must be or how long someone must spend typing.
Stacy
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Hi Stacy, welcome to my blog.
I’m sorry for the delay in my replying but I’m currently off sick, 6 weeks now but am hoping to return very soon.
We do indeed live and learn especially when it comes to the comments we once allowed on our blogs. I think most of us started in the same fashion Stacy, allowing pretty much any comment that was made.
I totally agree with the rules you mentioned and apply them all here, better safe than sorry as they say
I’m pleased to see that you have commentluv premium as it will take care of most of the spam we receive. I love the latest updates, where we can delete spam comments automatically without them ever coming to us…. What a time saver that is, once I get back to work and set it up correctly
I also love how easy Andy has made it to remove broken links yet leave the comments.
Thanks for popping over and commenting Stacy and sorry once again for the delay in replying.
Barry
Hi Barry
Sorry to hear about your health problems and wish you all the best with those.
That’s a terrific post on blog commenting and I have now installed GASP thanks to you. I pride myself on not letting any spam comments through on any of my blogs but just today I had one where the comment was A1 but had no gravatar and on checking the blog found that comments were closed on the latest post and couldn’t find any comments anywhere on the blog.
Being suspicious I feel this guy is only after a backlink without offering the chance for others to get one so I will leave it in the spam tray for a while and see what happens.
Hope to see you back in action soon Barry.
Bill
Hi Bill,
Sorry for the delay in replying mate but I’m still laid up, 6 weeks now and still counting. The thing is my wife is due an operation soon that will see her laid up for a while so I have to get myself sorted by then…. fingers crossed anyway
Glad to hear that you’ve installed GASP and hope it has already saved you loads of time. Now that you’re getting a few blogs up have you thought about CommentLuv Premium? I think its the best plugin I have and certainly wouldn’t be without it Bill.
I totally agree with you Bill and I would also have marked the comment as spam as well. They’re just after a backlink for sure mate…. Crafty so and so’s aren’t they… trying to look all proper to get approved, good for you for checking them out. Remember Bill “your blog your rules” mate.
Thanks Bill, I’ll catch up with you properly once I return back to work.
Take care mate
Barry
Wow, Barry…great post on spammers. The spammers will drive me crazy one of these days. I had a great email name I was using to promote my fledgling ghostwriting career and spammers just destroyed it’s usefulness and my sanity in the process.
I was visiting England for a month and when I returned I had several thousand spams in my account. I deleted them and continued to receive 50-60 more every few hours. Unsubscribing, deleting and reporting spam did exactly nothing. I eventually just deleted the account and selected another email account on gmail, like you suggested. That worked and your suggestion is the reason I am sane today, but that “sanity” might be up for discussion, which I am going to ignore.
I miss my old ghostwriter account. I used it for 4-5 years and it had a history behind it that I liked. No matter…what’s gone is gone.
Keep up your good work, Barry. There’s no telling how many of your readers are newbies. Any one you can save from the disasters caused by the spammers is a good thing. There was a time when trust counted, but the spammers have squashed that and it disgusting.
Pat Graham
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Hi Pat,
I know exactly what you mean about the spammers driving you insane. I remember the problem you had with them attacking your email account and as you say deleting, reporting and unsubscribing from them has zero effect. In fact the last thing you should do is try to unsubscribe as you’re then telling the spammer that your email address is live which leads to you being hit hard and fast with the crap they send.
Its a real shame that you had to change your email address and lose all the connections you’d built up with it. For my first email address I used the account one I set up with my ISP and in the end I had to stop opening it as I would get over 1500 a day which meant most of the day was sorting through them to find the real emails. The last time I attempted to open it I had over 250,000 emails to sort through, luckily I had started using another address for my business contacts so I deleted the account altogether
Thanks Pat, I do hope that the post saves people suffering.
Take care, Barry
Twitter: hajraks
Sorry to have been missing for so long! Just busy with loads of things!
As for people leaving spammy links that is really is a no – no for me. I have the disqus installed and I always moderate comments that contain a link. I do go back to the readers blog and make it a point to see what they have to offer but spammy links are a serious no for me.
I learnt early that there really are some “readers” one can do without. I recently wrote about how I was branded a terrorist by a blogger and then they just came back and continued “trowing crap” at my blog. And then I just go ahead and blacklist them because it really is my blog, and I just can’t let anyone come and dirty it!
Hope you are having a lovely week!
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Hi Hajra,
No need to say sorry my friend, I’ve been missing myself for the last 7 weeks due to a skin problem and my trying to avoid a pressure sore
I totally agree with you about people leaving links within their comments. The only ones i allow are those to posts or videos that add to my posts and that I feel will help future readers, anything else is removed.
I’ll have to come and read your post. I’m truly shocked that someone would brand you a terrorist and then keep coming back and making more insults. I think you took the right action in blacklisting them, its just a shame you couldn’t report them to anyone and get them took off line altogether.
Yes it is your blog Hajra and I have a simple saying… “my house my rules” which i also apply to my blog and think everyone should apply the same rule… “My Blog My Rules”.
Thanks Hajra, I hope to be back soon and will catch you up when I am.
Take care,
Barry
Twitter: hajraks
I really am sorry about your health. Hope things are getting better.
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Thanks Hajra, I keep following the wife’s orders
Take care, Barry
Twitter: hajraks
And listening to a lady will always do wonders! Really!
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Its more the danger I’d be in if I didn’t listen to her Hajra
Catch up soon my friend
Hey buddy, was just stopping by to see if there was anything new here. I’m guessing since no that you’re still sick. Feel better bro, and if you need anything with your blog let us know, and we’re only too happy to help if we can.
Take care buddy.
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Hi Warren, yes mate, still off sick and not much sign of improvement at the moment.
I’ve just published a guest post by Mandy Allen to keep the content going…. It’s a good post about Guest posting and what’s in it for us
Hope to catch up soon mate, take care.
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Hi Barry
Long time no speak.
Great post on spamming.
These spamming comments really get my back up
James
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Hi James, its been a while mate
I’ve been laid up for the last 7 weeks and still not much sign of improvement
Those spammers get all of our backs up and waste loads of our time in the process. We have to take measures to stop them appearing on our blogs James.
I hope all is good with you mate.
Take care, Barry